हङकङमा भूपू सैनिकको ऐतिहासिक भेला, ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाइयो (+Exclusive Video Report)

March 29th, 2007

एचकेनेपाल डट कम, मार्च २८-
हङकङमा रहेका गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिक, उनीहरुका सन्तति तथा समर्थकहरुले बुधबार हङकङस्थित बेलायती दूतावासलाई ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाइएको छ।

गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिकहरुले आफूहरुमाथि बेलायत सरकारले जातिय भेदभाव गरेको भन्दै बेलायती सैनिकसरह पेन्सन तथा अन्य समान सुविधाको मागसहित हङकङस्थित बेलायती दूतावासका सहायक महावाणिज्यदूत रोब भेनलाई ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाइएका हुन्।


समान सुविधाको लागि लडाईं: गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिकहरुले आफूहरुमाथि बेलायत सरकारले जातिय भेदभाव गरेको भन्दै बेलायती सैनिकसरह पेन्सन तथा अन्य समान सुविधाको मागसहित हङकङस्थित बेलायती दूतावासका सहायक महावाणिज्यदूत रोब भेनलाई बुधबार बिहान दूतावासको प्राङ्गनमा ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाउंदै गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिक संघ (गेसो) का केन्द्रीय सदस्य तथा हङकङ मकाउ विभाग प्रमुख मणिकिराँत बान्तवा। तस्विरः जगत अम्बु गुरूङ एचकेनेपाल डट कम, २८ मार्च हङकङ। थप तस्विरहरु हेर्न यहाँ क्लिक गर्नुहोस्।

सोही दिन हङकङबाहेक गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिकहरुले अन्य देशहरुमा पनि त्यहाँका बेलायती दूतावास तथा वेलफेयर सेन्टरहरुमा विरोध प्रदर्शन गरी ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाएका छन्।


हङकङस्थित बेलायती दूतावासलाई ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाउनअघि अनौपचारिक कार्यक्रममा बोल्दै मेजर मानबहादुर गुरुङले बेलायती सरकारको पछिल्लो पटक आएको घोषणाले हामी स्तव्ध भएका छौं भन्दै बेलायत सरकारसंग लड्न अझ गोलीगठठा थपिएर आएको बताउंनु भयो। उहाँले गोर्खाबीच एकता हुनु पर्ने राय व्यक्त गर्दै ढिलो चाँडो गोर्खा सैनिकको जीत हुनेमा आफू विश्वास्त रहेको बताउंनु भयो।

यसै सन्दर्भमा रामकाजि राईले बेलायत सरकारले दुनियाँको आँखामा छारो हाली गोर्खा सैनिकलाई न्याय गरेको देखाउन खोजिएको आरोप लगाउंनु भयो उहाँले २ सय वर्षभित्र ५ लाख गोर्खा सैनिकमध्ये १ लाख गोर्खा सैनिकले बेलायतको खातिर ज्यान गुमाएको स्मरण गराउंदै जिउंदा ५० हजार गोर्खा सैनिकलाई पेन्सन सुविधामा अन्याय गरेको बताउंनु भयो। उहाँले भन्नु भयो - कम्युनिष्टहरु साम्राज्यवादी सामान्त भनेर बेलायतलाई भन्छन् आज त्यसको पुष्टि भएको छ भन्नु भयो।

ब्रिटीश गोर्खा भूपू सैनिक संघ हङकङका अध्यक्ष हेमबहादुर तामाङले जातिय भेदभावको अन्त्य र गोर्खा भूपूहरुले समान सुविधा नपाएसम्म लडाई जारी रहने बताउंदै गेसोको आगामी कार्यक्रमबारे जानकारी दिनुभएको थियो। अनौपचारिक कार्यक्रमको सञ्चालन गेसो विदेश विभाग सदस्य नरेन्द्र राईले गर्नुभएको थियो।

समान पेन्सन, भेदभावको अन्त्य, मानवअधिकारको सम्मानलगायत गोर्खा सैनिकहरुको एकता र आवासीय भिसासमेतको नारा लगाउंदै बेलायती दूतावासको प्राङगनमा पुगेका गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिक, तिनका सन्तति तथा समर्थकहरुको समूहलाई प्रतिनिधित्व गर्दै गोर्खा भूतपूर्व सैनिक संघ (गेसो) का केन्द्रीय सदस्य तथा संघका हङकङ विभाग प्रमुख मणिकिराँत बान्तवाले हङकङस्थित बेलायती सहायक महावाणिज्यदूत रब भेनलाई ज्ञापन पत्र बुझाएका थिए।


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बिभिन्न पत्र पत्रिकाका पत्रकारहरु र संघसंस्थाका प्रतिनिधिहरुको समेत उपस्थिति रहेको सो कार्यक्रममा सहायक महावाणिज्यदूत रब भेनले उपस्थित जनसमुदायलाई म तपाईहरुको यो ज्ञापन पत्र सम्बन्धित निकायमा पठाउने छु र यसको जवाफ सीधै तपाईको संगठनमा पठाई दिने छ भनेर सौहार्दपूर्ण ढंगले जवाफ दिएका थिए ।

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120 प्रतिक्रियाहरू / Comments आफ्नो प्रतिक्रिया दिनुहोस् / Add your own

  • 1. Pramod  |  March 24th, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    Dear Gaeso,
    Dear Friends,
    Let’s go there and raise our Strong’s voice together.

  • 2. T Ram,,  |  March 24th, 2007 at 8:56 pm

    गेसोले गर्न लागेको कार्यक्रममा हामिसबैले हाते-मालो गर्दै, यकजुट भयर >>>>>>

    बेलायत सरकारले हामि नेपालिलाइ खेलौना बनायको,अपहेलना गरेको, हाम्रा बाउ-बाजेलाइ आगोको मुस्लोमा होमेर आफ्नो जिउ-धनको सुरक्षा गरेको र नेपालिको ज्यानको मुल्यको बे-वास्ता गर्दै आयको छ।
    सनसारमा मानवाधिकारबादिको झुठो ढोल ठोक्ने बेलायतले हामि नेपालिबाट आफ्नो सुरक्षा र स्वार्थ मात्र पुरा गरेको छ।
    हङ्कङमा जन्म भयका (बि यन ओ र पछि बि ओ सि) नेपालिहरुलाइ बेलायतमा काम गर्न र बस्न दिने भनेर समाचारमा हल्ला पिटायो,सबै गोर्खाका सन्ततिहरुलाइ निबेदनगर्नु भन्ने नाटक गरेर उल्टै मोटो रकम लियो तर खोइत दियको??
    देखावटि २-४लाइ मात्र दियो अरु गरिब हामि नेपालिको पैसा खायो!!

    हे बेलायति!!हाम्रा बाउ-बाजेले तिमिहरुको जिउ-धनको सेवा गर्दा आफ्नो ज्यान समेत गुमाउनु पर्यो, अहिले हामि उनिहरुकै सन्ततिहरुले बल्ल-बल्ल, दुख कस्ट गरेर अलि-अलि जोगाइ राखेको केहि रकमपनि तिमिहरुलाइ देखिसहनु भयन कि??
    बेलायत जाउ भनेर दलालले जस्तै पैसा हसुर्ने,अनि जान नदिने किन? जान नदिनेभय किन लिने रकम??
    किन दिइयो बि यन ओ,किन दिइयन हङ्कङ पासपोर्ट जब बेलायतमा काम गर्न नै पाइदैन भने??
    बेलायतले किन चलाखि गरेको हो हामि गरिब सङग??
    गोर्खाले बेलायतको सेवा गरे बापत गोर्खाले के पायो त,किन भेदभाव गरियो गोर्खा सैनिक र अरु सैनिक?? विभिन्न किसिमका “यक्ट १९९६|१९९७|२००४|२००६” भन्ने नाटक किन गर्छ??

    उठौ सबै गोर्खालिहरु, आखा हुदा हुदै आन्धो भयर किन्
    बस्ने ? दिउसै डकैत गर्ने डाकां सङग पर्तिकार गर्नु पर्छ,,बोल्न सक्ने मुख हुदा-हुदै इसारामा किन चल्ने???
    “”"हामि बीर गोर्खालि थियौ, छौं र सधै सधै रहनेछौं”"”"”जय नेपाल!!!!!!!!!जय गोर्खलि!!!!!!!!!

  • 3. Raj Rai  |  March 25th, 2007 at 6:07 am

    Dear reader this is totaly rong GAESO are not doing this think GAESO are asking for more mony if not plz ask with Gaeso Guys or Gopalchhintan Siwakoti GAESO are collect 139,000 for each 400 people has been gived already to GAESO SOSHAK HARU LAE. GAESO are living by misleading pass 10years. all our fellow Gurkha brothers! now GAESO are mislead for the sake of self-benefit. although GAESO trying to show inclination towards the Lata gurkhas, which baffles to everyone. Gopalchhintan Siwakoti and PADAM GURUNG is TOTALY CHHOR haru ho? plz stop to collect the money from lata brother haru bat and on 28 Mar 4 praty are going ther not GAESO thank you

  • 4. yam limbu  |  March 26th, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    dear all hong kong basi folks .we have to raise strong voice together for right and justics from around world one day deffinetly we get it right let,s go together and fight for justics, jai gaeso .
    from uk.

  • 5. Raj Rai  |  March 27th, 2007 at 2:58 am

    Thane bat Yam Limbu ji timi pani oneof the Lata manchhe ko poesha Khane ma pare ko rahechha GAESO are chhore and you are oneof the big chhor bro think about your family and good chilrends ok

  • 6. Sailen  |  March 27th, 2007 at 10:48 am

    THIS WORD IS SELFISH TO TAKE SOMETHING, TO GIVE SOMETHING. MUST BE GIVE AND TAKE.. HOPE U DO UNDST WAT I,M TRYING TO SAY… I,LL B THERE…..

  • 7. सुरेश  |  March 27th, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    माथि column 3 मा राज राईजीको भनाईलाई प्रष्ट बुझ्न सकिएन । वहांको भनाई “28 Mar 4 praty are going ther not GAESO” को के अर्थ हो? कृपया प्रष्ट्याई पाऊं ।

  • 8. Tika Pun  |  March 29th, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    well done Ex Gurkhas

  • 9. Bhim bahadur Gurung  |  March 29th, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    Wel done to all GEASO personnel and those who are supporting to this movement up untill now.So far we achieving good results but we have to lot more this is the right time push. There is no way to escape for the British sooner or later they must pay our price of the Blood.Lets unite and fight again we are inside the 18 yds box of football Ground. Jai GEASO

  • 10. maila  |  March 29th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    yo gurkha hat ra cowboy hat pani nachinne kun chahi budho ho..alikati huncha ni yaar..ki bhaka topi launu..ki sun cap launo but not that yanki cowboy hat yaar…..

  • 11. maila  |  March 29th, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    to mr rai ..you sound like you are from mr deepak’s gurung clan..kati pound khandai cahu making fraction among gurkah daju bhai….don’t listen to this kind of people hai…..

  • 12. Sohan Pun  |  March 30th, 2007 at 12:51 am

    comment no.9 …Ha Ha Ha Ha maila bro ley mitho hasayo Ha Ha Cowboy टोपी तेसमा सुर्काउने तुना पनि रैछ बा !!तल डिङ्गो बूट पनि लगाये जस्तो छ नि बुढाले!! हसायो यार !!

  • 13. niks  |  March 30th, 2007 at 1:30 am

    Rai raj tero baoule talai ramro sanga ra padhana sikayena justo chha ni talai ris chha bhane hidna maidanma tero baouko bihe dekhchhas sugur talaipani belayetle paisa diyejustokuro garchhas ni bajiya hos garera lekha

  • 14. harry  |  March 30th, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    hi…Mr Raj Rai babu plz wake up what about talking your nonsence n stupid mind is robbish…you are a really Gurkha or father nepalese mother…..?????/

    put hand together with GAESO………!!

    FELLOW GAESO HONG KONG……!!!!

  • 15. niks  |  March 30th, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    ।सलाम छ है लाहुरे दाई तिमीलाई
    वीरका सन्तान भनि चाइनायोउ सन्सारलाई
    गोला बरुद बर्सेपनि सहसी भाई लदिरहेयोउ
    अन्तिम पैला नरोकुन्जेल बदुरी भाई बढीरह्योउ
    बादुरिको नाम पायोउ तक्मभो छाति भरि
    यती ठुलो सम्मान पायोउ महरानी ले नि सोलोत गरी

    शब्द दुखिमन ६ गुर्खा राईफल सोम थापा मगर चाडदै नै शब्द सहित गीत बनेर आउँदै छ संगीत सोम थापा दुखिमन

  • 16. purple_haze  |  March 30th, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Maila ji

    Hasaunu bhayo with regards to Cow boy hat.

    Uk ma pani bhela bhabya thiyo, tyaha jane haru ley bhane anusar about 3000 jana bhela bhaya thiye rey. I would have uploaded a picture here if possible.

  • 17. Ratna Thapa uk  |  March 31st, 2007 at 1:11 am

    म राई राज को समर्थन गर्दछु, अनि यो पनि भन्छु कि hk nepal .com तटस्थ छैन या नि गेसो लाई बढी प्राथमिकता दिदो रहेछ ।

  • 18. Dilip  |  March 31st, 2007 at 6:36 am

    purple_haze jee,
    It would be better that if you send those pictures to hknepal.com - I think, its mail add: info@hknepal.com

  • 19. dikka baatt waakkk. nepal  |  March 31st, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    khoi yo nepali haru jaha gae pani bani behora ramro bato ma hune hoin kyare?? jhan samdhini ko saaino samdhi sang

    juwaee ko saaino sashu sang , barbaadd nai chha hai yo nepali haru.

    china ko thaau ma ta yasto haal jhan gora ko thaau ma pugyo bhane ta lau na ke ke po aaee lage ho??

    afu nachan jandain british gov. laae aarop??

  • 20. spectator  |  March 31st, 2007 at 12:58 pm

    please read Dr. Andrew Hall’s article “Gurkhas Get Air Deal” in kantipur Mar 31. Comments welcome.

  • 21. Damar  |  March 31st, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    Dear All,

    The following is the message I posted on www.bgws.info on 20 Mar 07. I would like to post here again with few extra comments.

    The 28 Mar protest turnout in London, Hong Kong and Kathmandu was remarkable. It was a solid Gurkha unity demonstration, but a true embarrassment to the British Government.

    The Gurkha Organizations and community, I think, should publicize this injustice case more on the Internet for general public to view. The Internet is a powerful tool to fight against the Government injustices.

    So, let your presence felt in the Internet world too!

    Thanks,

    With regards,

    Damar Thapa

    ======start of 20 Mar Post=====

    Gurkhas to get full British army pensions

    Hong Kong Gurkha community woke up on the morning of 8 March 2007 with the news of South China Morning Post, titled “Gurkhas to get full British army pensions”. It was an excellent story for the community even though the official announcement was 10-12 hours away. Since the story had fallen short of reporting the most important fact that it was only applicable to those retired on or after 1 Jun 1997, it gave a triumphant moment, though short-lived, to many Gurkhas. But, as the world media started to cover the news, following the official announcement in the UK, Gurkha community started to realize how insignificant this announcement was in terms of real practical gain.

    The number of post-1997 pensioners is nothing compared to pre-1997 pensioners’ number, and the number of pensioners who will have immediate benefit from this announcement is even less.

    The above-said 1 Jun 1997 demarcation is questionable and may not survive its first battle, as many Gurkha supporters have pointed out. The MOD, I guess, is in a difficult position now — trapped by its own past. Until recently, it maintained that the terms and conditions of Brigade of Gurkhas cannot be separated from Indian Gurkhas, but now it is here segregating its own Gurkhas into two groups with completely different terms and conditions. As stated in the news article of BGWS, the MOD is adamant not to include pensioners discharged prior to 1 July 1997, but I wonder if it is just bluffing or it has a real package to be confident of! No matter what, one thing is certain that this announcement definitely is a step forward to a total Gurkha victory.

    Lastly, the reason given to justify why pre-1997 pensioners were excluded from this announcement is wrong, it is discriminatory and it is the exploitation of Gurkha honesty, royalty and friendship. Would you call an employer a world class employer if it pays its employees less with an excuse that the employees do not need that much? Gurkha Organizations have brought in war veterans and their widows with no pensions, gratuity and compensations, how can MOD consider these conditions are fair and equitable?

    Damar Thapa
    Hong Kong

  • 22. maila  |  March 31st, 2007 at 2:28 pm

    oh ho its nice to see you back pourple_haze bro ,last time we healthy debate about rajeevs show haina ta …aba ho ni ta gurkha bhaye pachi tero important rally ma hindi rakheko cha ,euta goekhako symbolize hune chij launu chodera cow boy hat yaar ..tara budho lai hollywood ko gene heckman bhanda kam chahi dekhiyeko chai na hai……….

  • 23. Prizo darehiya  |  March 31st, 2007 at 2:46 pm

    Hai! Raj Rai
    Ta kun duniya bata akko ho
    Tero bauta nepli nai hola
    Talai chaine Gorenile pako ho

    Arkalai tesai nabhan lata ra chor
    Baru!
    aphno ghatima rasi Lagayera mor

    Okay! Ali kati bichar purayera bhan
    Hoina bhane tero taukoma aula ghan

  • 24. Krishna  |  March 31st, 2007 at 6:26 pm

    Do you think what DR Andrew hall sain in kantipur?

    Gurkhas Get a Fair Deal
    By Dr Andrew Hall

    You have to be good, very very good, to join the British Army as a Gurkha. The United Kingdom currently recruits only 230 Nepali citizens a year, but this year over 14,600 young men applied - it’s certainly a popular career. To be one of the fortunate few you have to be highly motivated, well educated and in peak physical condition. Those who make the grade are joining one of the world’s most advanced armies, often serving in some very challenging operational theatres such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
    In return, the Gurkha soldier will be paid the equivalent of his British counterpart (as a Lance Corporal 2.25 lakh rupees a month, as a Sergeant 3.15 lakh rupees a month and as a Captain 4.16 lakh rupees a month). His wife and children will be entitled to live in service provided accommodation in the United Kingdom. In addition, they will all receive free healthcare and free education for their children. It sounds, and is, a highly desirable and attractive career.

    So why have retired ex-British Gurkha servicemen been demonstrating outside the British Houses of Parliament and outside the British Embassy in Kathmandu? They say they have been unfairly treated over their pensions and over their immigration status. There has been a lot of rhetoric. I wanted to lay down some facts.

    Pensions

    Until now Gurkha pensions have been linked to the rates paid to Indian Army pensioners. Why? Because that was the agreement the-then Governments of Nepal, India and the United Kingdom signed up to in 1947 when the British Indian Army was wound up and some Gurkha regiments were re-assigned to the British Army and some to independent India’s Army.

    Since then every new recruit has been made perfectly well aware of this linkage. The pension rates were intended to support the ex-Gurkha when he retired to Nepal. And they are generous. Don’t take our word for it: judge for yourselves. A Captain draws in the region of 42 thousand rupees every month, while a Sergeant and a Lance Corporal draw in excess of 17 thousand and 13 thousand rupees respectively, each month.

    Why didn’t they get the same pension as a British soldier? Because the Gurkha Pension Scheme (GPS) and the British Armed Forces Pension Scheme 75 (AFPS 75) are entirely different, intended to meet different needs. The GPS is based on the Indian Army Pension Scheme. It assumes that Gurkhas are recruited in Nepal, serve in the British Army as Nepalese citizens and, crucially, are discharged in Nepal, where historically the vast majority of former Gurkhas have remained on retirement.

    Let’s be clear. The GPS is not a substandard version of the British AFPS 75. On the contrary, it has benefits that the AFPS 75 does not. What are they? Specifically, the Gurkha pension scheme not only provides generous rates but also:

    ” pays pensions early, on departure from the army. This is a massive benefit. Their counterparts in the wider Army under the British AFPS 75 who serve for less than 22 years (currently 80%+) do not receive any pension at all until they reach the age of 60 or, increasingly, 65. In contrast, Gurkhas who leave service with only 15 years service, start to receive a pension under GPS immediately on discharge. This means that they receive pension payments for a long period, perhaps 25 years or more, when a non-Gurkha gets nothing. The preserved pension a non-Gurkha soldier gets at age 60/65 is worth more, but is paid for a much shorter period;

    “ensures any revision of pensions benefits are applied to all pensioners in the scheme. For example, all our pensioners had their pensions at least doubled when the GPS was reviewed in 1999. This is in marked contrast to their British counterparts whose pensions are based on their salaries at the time they left the Army. They cannot catch up with any subsequent pay awards made to their successors; “matches or exceeds any improvements made to Indian Army pensions rates, including through the 10-yearly Indian Army Pay Commissions. For example, in 2006 the British Government learnt that the Indian government was going to change the calculation of its pensions. We immediately began to implement this change, which will result in a further substantial increase (up to 20%) in GPS pensions for junior ranks. The British government also continues to review the GPS pensions annually to take account of cost of living increases in Nepal.

    So, are the pension arrangements for Nepali ex-Gurkhas different? Yes, absolutely: they confer on Nepali ex-Gurkhas benefits that their British counterparts can never enjoy.

    However, as a result of the Gurkha Terms and Conditions of Service review, ex-Gurkhas, who left the British Army after 1 July 1997 and who have already been benefiting from the GPS pension, will be allowed the option of transferring to the British AFPS 75. All their service, including that before 1 July 1997, will be taken into account, if they decide to transfer their benefits into AFPS 75. Service on or after 1 July 1997 will be given a credit of year-for-year in AFPS 75, while service before that date will have a credit worth broadly the same as the benefits earned in the GPS before that date.

    However, an individual’s decision of whether or not to transfer from GPS to AFPS 75 will be a complex one and individuals will need to read carefully the Offer To Transfer documentation when issued, ensure they understand the consequences of opting for change and make a decision based on their personal needs.

    Finally on pensions, it has been claimed that it is “outrageous” that Gurkhas who served for the duration of World War II receive no pension for their war service. However, not only is this in step with their comrades in the wider Army who also served for the duration of the war and earned no pension from it but ex-Gurkhas are able to draw on the services of the Gurkha Welfare Scheme which provides financial and other support to over 10,000 ex-Gurkhas.

    Settlement in the United Kingdom

    The other complaint raised by the ex-Gurkha organisations is over their entitlement to permanent resident’s status in the United Kingdom. Until a few years ago a tiny number of retired Gurkhas qualified for a United Kingdom resident’s permit. They would not have spent enough time in the United Kingdom to qualify under our Immigration Rules. In October 2004 that changed. The British Home Office gave an immigration concession to ex-Gurkhas who retired after 1 July 1997 to allow those who had completed at least 4 years military service to count this towards the qualifying period for settlement in the United Kingdom.

    The ex-Gurkhas outside the British Embassy are not demonstrating about this concession. They are demonstrating that the concession should also apply to those Gurkhas who retired before 1 July 1997. So, why is the concession only valid from 1 July 1997? Because 1 July 1997 is the date when the Brigade of Gurkhas, on completion of the British withdrawal from Hong Kong, became a United Kingdom based force, thus enabling ex-Gurkhas to demonstrate close and continuous ties to the United Kingdom. Before then our Gurkhas were based in the Far East, and could not therefore demonstrate these close ties as required by the United Kingdom Immigration Rules. This requirement has never been up for negotiation and it was never the British government’s intention to grant universal settlement rights to all Gurkhas who were recruited in Nepal, served in the Far East and were finally discharged in Nepal.

    However, in recognition of the fact that some ex-Gurkhas, discharged prior to 1 July 1997 might also be able to demonstrate close ties to the United Kingdom, the British government introduced four discretionary criteria. Under these criteria, which include either three years service in the United Kingdom, the balance of close family members being already resident in the United Kingdom, children’s education or acute medical conditions, significant numbers have successfully applied for settlement visas.

    While I, and my Embassy staff, have listened carefully to our ex-Gurkhas concerns and have acted as a conduit to the British government, it saddens me that they feel so hard done by. The relationship between the Brigade of Gurkhas and the British Army has always been one built on mutual trust and confidence. Nothing has been hidden and our Gurkhas have known from their first days of service what their terms and conditions of service would be. When there have been changes over the years, we have given extremely detailed briefings. The relationship within the Army is but a reflection of the long term relationship between our two nations. From where I sit our friendship remains as strong as ever. Fortunately for Nepal, the majority of ex-Gurkhas living in Nepal are now devoting their energies and their resources to building a peaceful and prosperous Nepal together with their fellow citizens.
    (Dr Hall is the British Ambassador to Nepal)

  • 25. chituwa  |  March 31st, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    hawa ma kam chhaina x haru ko, khali andolannn…??

  • 26. dikka baatt waakkk. nepal  |  March 31st, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    nepali dherai jaanne bhae jasto chha??

    hong kong immigration le visa roke jastai abo British Gov le pani kunai pani nepali laaee army ma bharti ma laane chain tyo kura smaraniya hos????

  • 27. Ratna Thapa uk  |  March 31st, 2007 at 11:26 pm

    Hello, Krishna
    that is for new member of Britih Army, we are talking about pensioner, that is why we marching and protesting in london. ok
    thank you

  • 28. Ratna Thapa uk  |  April 1st, 2007 at 2:20 am

    if our pension is according to our living standard in Nepal, how about Dr, Hall pay while he is in Nepal his pay should be as according to Nepali Standard.
    do they concider the pay scale of Kofi Anann according to the living Satnadard of Ghana?
    what a load of rubbish. 1945 Tri-party agreement is just a excuse, nothing as in black and whilte, if so every single soldier should see it before he join-in.

  • 29. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 1st, 2007 at 11:26 am

    Dear All Ex-British Gurkhas,

    I have extracted and patched the below paragraphs below from the above article written by the Dr. Hall, British Ambassador to Nepal.

    I would like to ask the readers to explain them in simple terms so that everyone of us can fully understanding of the terms stated in the contents so that its not misinterpreted and exaggerated more than what it really means.

    I had also expressed my perceptions and wrong information being published in the “Kantipur Patrika” regarding this pension issue.

    However, as a result of the Gurkha Terms and Conditions of Service review, ex-Gurkhas, who left the British Army after 1 July 1997 and who have already been benefiting from the GPS pension, will be allowed the option of transferring to the British AFPS 75. All their service, including that before 1 July 1997, will be taken into account, if they decide to transfer their benefits into AFPS 75. Service on or after 1 July 1997 will be given a credit of year-for-year in AFPS 75, while service before that date will have a credit worth broadly the same as the benefits earned in the GPS before that date.

    However, an individual’s decision of whether or not to transfer from GPS to AFPS 75 will be a complex one and individuals will need to read carefully the Offer To Transfer documentation when issued, ensure they understand the consequences of opting for change and make a decision based on their personal needs.

    Saran

  • 30. appreciated  |  April 1st, 2007 at 1:13 pm

    Having read Dr. Hall’s article I have a feeling that Gurkhas in fact got a fair deal. I would be interested in comments by GAESO or their members.

  • 31. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 1st, 2007 at 2:34 pm

    Dear Readers,

    The article written by Dr. Hall posted on this website has given a clear indication of the difference from what has been previously published in the “Kantipur Newspaper” were I had strongly placed my remarks against the information and stated that there have been misinterpretations or may well have been deliberately done by someone in the past to win the popularity. It is absolutely ridiculous to mislead one’s own colleagues and he who does such naturally should end up paying for the consequences.

    Saran

  • 32. Ratna Thapa uk  |  April 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pm

    Hello, appreciated
    whatever why you hiding your identity?
    well this Package called GOTT(gurkhas option to transfer) to AFPS 75. it is not that simple according to this or if we transfer to this we have to stop the current pension, but will they give us all benefit accoring to AFPS75 like when we retired we should get lumsump, resettlement grant(not nominal amount as gurkha get) but if you look at the full term and condition of AFPS 75, we are better off, but will the british government agree to do that? no, that is why this cut off date of 97 was introduce. in it even the post 97 TOLI their service before 97 is not year-on year transferable. like you have service of 16 year before 97 it will count like this
    Major-23%
    captain-28%
    lt-27%
    woi-26%
    woii-27%
    c/sgt-27%
    sgt-29%
    cpl-30%
    lcpl-36%
    rfn-36%
    so a cpl has service of 10 before 97 will count as like this
    10X 12 MONTHS IS=120 MONTHSX30%=36 MONTHS WHICH IS 3 YEARS, THAT IS WHAT, IT WILL COUNT TOWARDS YOUR PENSION YEAR. AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 65 YEARS FOR THAT? NOT WAY
    THAT IS WHY WE ARE FIGHTING FOR OUR RECOGNITION OF OUR SERVICE AS YEAR FOR YEAR VALUATION.
    BUT DON’T BE DOWNHEARTED IT IS NOT AS CONCRETE AS IN BLACK AND WHITE RULE YET. WHEN I QUERRY ABOUT THE PACKAGE TO APC GLASGOW THEY SAID STILL NOT CONFIRMED YET. SO WATCH OUT. THEY MIGHT CHANGE.

    THIS Ambassodor Dr Hall is trying to lure us, he thinks he is smart but he is not.we got more concern than him so we know better than him.

    hello saran SAAP if you want more detail give me your e-mail add i will mail all the details

    thanks

  • 33. ganesh rai  |  April 1st, 2007 at 7:06 pm

    sathiharu
    namaskar, ma nepal batai bhaye pani hamro gatibidhi lai ramrari niyalirahekochhu. n i geratly missed ur company. hamile hamro jayaj maglai sansarko kunai pani thaun ma rakhnu sakchhaun. jaya british gurkha..

    ganesh from nepal

  • 34. Bahadur Magar  |  April 1st, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    It`s nice to see all Gurkhas are trying to get united to fight for the unjustice announcments made by the British Government in regards to pension & right to settle in The UK in the past. IT`S 100% UNFAIR, UNJUSTICE AND A VERY BIG DISCREMINATION TO HAVE A CUT OFF DATE OF 01 JUL 1997 NOT ONLY BETWEEN BRITISH COUNTERPARTS BUT ALSO BETWEEN THE GURKHAS ITSELF. ARE NOT THOSE CALLED GURKHAS WHO RETIRED BEFORE 1997???????? IF THEY ARE CALLED SO, WHY THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT TREAT THE SAME GURKHAS DIFFERNTLY? ALL GURKHAS HAS TO BE TREATED EQUALLY & THE NEW ANNOUNCEMENT HAS TO BE MADE SOONER THAN LATER. I FULLY SUPPORT THE THE PLIGHT OF EX-GURKHAS & THE MOVEMENT OF GAESO. LETS GET UNITED & MOVE FORWARD. JAI GURKHALI & EX-GURKHAS.

  • 35. appreciated  |  April 1st, 2007 at 8:49 pm

    hello Ratna Thapa

    thx for yr response, greatly appreciated! hmmm .. very interesting formula! i think they have some problem over recognising your service “year to year valuation” without separating those who were discharged before 97. If they change as you hope then that means good news because they have to include all the pensioners most of whom are over 65 and will be eligible for immediate pension. thanks again and jai gurkha!!

  • 36. Robin Yakthungba  |  April 1st, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    यो आज को दिन मा भोएको मेरो मातलब प्रोटेस्ट एकदम राईट हो । । । । ।बृटिश गोवेर्मेन्ट को यो निती व्रोङ छ । । । ।यो टाईम नेइ थ्ह्ह वेऊओ ।खुशी लाग्यो । । । । ।बृटिश गोवेर्मेन्ट को निती कोमेलेटेलि व्रोङ छ किन कि १९९७ देखि यता त बृटिश गुर्खा म कम्ती मात्रम ओन सर्भिस म छन एस्को मत्लाब हटि को २ वोत्त दन्त्ता भनेको अज्स्तो हो । । । ।जुन टाईममा वोर्ल वर थियो त्यो टाईम को वौले कता गयू । । । । ।एस्तो सबै कुरा हेर्ने हो भने हामी लाई कति को नगन्या अग्र्को थ्ह हुन्छ । । । ।जुन टाईम मा वर अग्र्ने हाम्रो वडा ,मामा हरु अक्ती कस्तपूर्वक लाईफ बेतैरहनु भको छ ,,यो कुरा बृटिश गोवेर्मेन्ट लाई क को तेन्सन । । । । ।तर यो हामी लाई फिलिङ छ । । । ।सो थत स् वे वे मुस्त बे युनाईटेड अल्ल एक्स् सर्भिसमेन अन्द अल्ल अएफएमइल्ती अन्द नेपलिज तो तके अकसन अबोउत व्रोङ देकिसन अबोउत गुर्खा पेन्सन अन्द फकिलितीए । । । ।थन्क्स् फोर अल्ल मेम्बरस् अन्द ओथेर ग्रुपस् ।

  • 37. Ratna Thapa uk  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 2:57 am

    to appreciated
    as i said b4 it is not in black and white, so it can’t be that bad, what we demand is our recognition of service, it should count full towards our pension and if British GORA got 22 years of pension we should get 15 or whatever years pension in ration to 22 years service.
    that is all we wanted, nothing more than that. so a riflemen of 15 years service should get in region of 350-400 pounds/months am i right? something like that.
    thank you

  • 38. appreciated  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 am

    to Ratna Thapa

    .. but they say YOU CAN'’T HAVE A CAKE AND EAT IT ! what you are demanding appears to be against the AFPS 75 that the Gurkhas have been offered….

  • 39. Limbu  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    Mathi Raj Rai jee ko coments padhe Rai jee,GAESO le gurkha ko adhikar ko andolan ta garchha nai ra ( THOG, BADMAS ) lai nepal ma bhate karyakram pani garthiyo tyasma Rai jee parnu bhaye jasto chha, chinta nagarnu hos gurkha andolan ra bhate karyakram dubai topain ko lagi nai ho.

  • 40. Ratna Thapa uk  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 5:59 pm

    to appreciated,
    the it is within AFPS 75 if british get 600 pounds/months after 22 years of service why not us after 15 years of service in propostion to 22 years of service.
    just wait and see, as soon as the barrier of 97 is totally removed and we will transfer to AFPS 75, there is no problem, calculating the pension who gets what. so priority now for us is to fight against this barrier of 97.
    jai gurkhas

  • 41. appreciated  |  April 2nd, 2007 at 8:34 pm

    to Ratan Thapa

    If you ask me I can tell you that it is obvious they can never remove the barrier 97. This was the legal basis on which they worked out the formula for Gurkhas. You are now offered a choice between Gurkha pension and British pension, and to get British pension you have to follow, like the British soldiers, the rules in AFPS 75, and wait until you are 65!!! I wish you well and hope your proposal of propotionate pension 15 yrs will be considered favorably. jai gurkha!

  • 42. Purple_haze  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 2:01 am

    Hi ya maila

    I was much involved in New year fashion party than anything else in hknepal.com. Yes i had a say with regards to rijiv’s show but cant recall what i had said.

    Well yes that gentleman in cowboy hat looks quite cool.

    When more than a person iare nvolved in anything the politics slips in. Fighting for a Right is one thing, but politicalizing(if thats the correct term) is “SOMETHING”. All different organizations seem to be corroupted in a way or other.

    What i gather is all those people involved are playing politics. And by the way just to clear up your confusion (kindly) i am not brother.

    staywell

    A

  • 43. chituwa  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 1:40 pm

    yooo purane pusttaa haru k saro giddhii heyappsss haru rahechha yar.. british sarkar le gareko kunai pani nirnayaaa mandainannn..
    british army ko yuba pusta pariyo afu ta ..
    dats cool ..

  • 44. maila  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    to comment43==yehi ho ajabholi ko gorkheko parichaya,ekdum swarthi bani e dumba ta pani ek din retired hunchas,teti bela naya ketaharule testai behura dekhaunda kasto lagla ……….

  • 45. appreciated  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    generation gap!! maila what to do?

  • 46. yam limbu  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 9:04 pm

    raj rai ta auta nepal amale janmayeko manche hoina rahecha gorenile janmayeko rahechas tyasaile gorako khutta samater dhogne gardo rahechas warning you taile kunai person lai pani toker wa organision lai toker byangyamat garnu sakdainas kunai kura cha tero bhane gaeso kunai member kura garnu ayja

  • 47. yam limbu  |  April 3rd, 2007 at 9:05 pm

    raj rai ta auta nepal amale janmayeko manche hoina rahecha gorenile janmayeko rahechas tyasaile gorako khutta samater dhogne gardo rahechas warning you taile kunai person lai pani toker wa organision lai toker byangyamat garnu sakdainas kunai kura cha tero bhane gaesoko kunai member sanga kura garnu ayja

  • 48. Bharat Roka  |  April 4th, 2007 at 5:05 am

    Well Done GAESO Hong Kong Keep it up your movevement, Thankyou .

    Bharat Roka
    London
    UK

  • 49. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 4th, 2007 at 10:08 am

    Dear All Ex- Gurkhas.

    In my opinion after having read the above comments made by respective persons, we have got to voice our concern in unison and to do this we need to amalgamate our Associations in order to form a very strong force to manoeuvre the current situation of getting no where. But “Very IMANDAR SATH” and not misleading anyone by disseminating false information to our colleagues “SIDHA, SADHA, SOJO PEOPLE” to gain popularity. Things should be done in methodically not by “THOTRE BHASANS”. “BHASAN” is a very effective tool and only used by “BAD PERSONS” to incite sudho, sadha, sojo people to behave in a violent or illegal way by usually making them excited or angry. I ask every “BHUPU” to voice for merger of these “BHUPU ASSOCIATIONS”.

    Saran

  • 50. prashant rana hk  |  April 4th, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    Gurkhas are not brave only in battle field, they are brave in their KANOONI LADAIN with British.Well done GAESO keep it up. Don’t loose your hope, go ahead until your victory over British Govt.

  • 51. Rai  |  April 4th, 2007 at 7:11 pm

    Dear Hk nepal readires bro ans sis please keep in your mind that GAESO are the soshak haru ho? why you guys are stell sporting them? in Hong Kong GAESO ask to pay $14,000 each pensiner and in Nepal GAESO collect £900 pound with 400 old pensiner so what do you guys think thy are tha most soshak PLZ don sport anymore Thank you

  • 52. James  |  April 4th, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    yau gorkhas rocks but british sucks

  • 53. bahadur  |  April 5th, 2007 at 8:12 am

    lo i thought british rocks and gorkhas suck

  • 54. limbu  |  April 5th, 2007 at 4:54 pm

    Yes Mr Rai the burho pensioners must be dumb to make donations blindly!!

  • 55. raj Rai  |  April 6th, 2007 at 12:53 am

    Dear all ex Gurkhali haro,

    I totally agree with Mr Ganesh’s comments. Why have they opted to withdraw from the Joint Movement campaign? Surely, if they have ex Gurkha’s best interest at heart, they should be moving forward with the rest of the orgs side by side not the other way round. GAESO has once again shown us their true colours and let every GURKHALI haru down. Personally, a case of deja vu dating back to Judicial Review 2003. This was a case where GAESO lost in the High Court but sadly Padam and his so call ‘Interpreter none other than Chintan’ lied to everyone in Nepal that GAESO had won the case for pension equality.

    I am also very interested to know if this decision to boycott the Joint Movement was made by Just 4 people (Chintan ‘Blood sucker No 1), Padam (Blood sucker No 2), Mahendra (Blood sucker No 3) and Puranjang (Blood sucker No 4) or did they had a democratic vote within their society before taken this detrimental step !!!

    There is a strong rumour here in Kathmandu that GAESO will beinvesting 48 crores to built a building - but why. Surely, if they have over collected from the buros and widows, wouldnt it be sensible to return part of it back rather than investing it?

    I urge all GAESO members to think hard about this decision made by our leaders. I dare you to challenge their decision because I for one, certainly will.

    Gurkhas Wake - Up now or forever hold your peace

    Raj Rai

  • 56. yam limbu  |  April 6th, 2007 at 1:41 am

    hay you mr raj rai oneday you might be surprise regarding with this letter this is your second time don,t point to geaso, how much you pay for geaso, geaso will pay you back your money as soon as posible think befor speaks consiquinsece might be worse,

  • 57. Ratna Thapa  |  April 6th, 2007 at 5:46 am

    ओह त्यस्तो पो हो, तेही भएर होला पटक पटक
    को मीटीनग्मा बेलायत्मा आउदा, हामीले मील्नु
    पर्छ् भन्दा हुन्छ् हुन्छ भन्ने तर् नेपाल्
    फर्के पछी, उल्टा उल्टा कुरा गर्दै हीड्ने
    अब बल्ल कार्ण् बुझीयो।
    ल हुन्छ्, अब हेरौ कस्को कती पानी छ्

  • 58. chituwa  |  April 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    dummba jo ho tesai lai……now… we are di new generation..reli cool ..cheers buddy..

  • 59. Limbu  |  April 6th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    Raj rai kun sanstha ma abaddha chan thaha chaina uhan lai gaeso ko paisa ko matra chaso chha anya santha haru pani chan jasle 1000 pounds ra masik 20 pounds ko darle paisa uthaune garchan tyas ko chain kina awaj uthaunu hunna sayad tyas ko bharaute gorako chamche ta hunu hunna? Karan gaeso le ta paisa uthayera tyo abastha dekhi yo abstha samma lyayo, Africa, Genva, Cairo, UK ko court ma mudda garera Japanease POW lai 10000 pounds dilayo, ajjha sabai prakar ka bhupu sainik haru lai equal right hunu parcha bhandai chha. uhan lai parichalan gare jasto chha chinne harule yad rakhne bela ahayo jasto chha.

  • 60. Raj Rai  |  April 6th, 2007 at 6:34 pm

    Dear Limbu ji
    Thank you for your Commend the £1,000 pound you tlaking about the £1,000 pound is contribute for the property as a shareholder base ok Limbu ji,
    Note that the £1,000 pound is you can witdraw at any time with high intrest rate. if you any more plz let me know thank you Raj Rai

  • 61. Ratna Thapa uk  |  April 6th, 2007 at 7:38 pm

    Hello, Gurkhali Daju bhai and didi bahini haru for your info, below is a frustration from a GAESO member.

    Subject: Defragmentation of Gurkha Organisation - A Shameful Act
    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:22:34 -0700 (PDT)

    Dear All,
    GAESO, GAESO why have you broken the coalition. Where is the money that Mr Sangrola has borrowed (RS 2 crores), can you assholes recoup the money let alone the intersest?, the money invested in various Kathmandu land, Sainik Awaz etc, etc paid for by our poor baje/bojus. You all have robbed the poor to enjoy your lifestyle. Why is Mr Chindtan in UK, he can be better employed in Nepal, fighting for dual citizenship for Gurkhas and all Nepalise throughout the world. As an Intepreter?? Excuse me, do British Gurkhas need so called intepreters when English is the key medium for communication? Give me a call and I will intepret or write for any Gurkhas for FREE!!!!!!!!
    Unfortunately, GAESO President cannot live without him. “Nepali ko bhasan le UK ma kei pani khesdaina” Unity is the key and bye-bye to GAESO.
    More to follow on this issue - watch out. You have opted out without SEEKING views from your members. Are you the KING OF GURKHAS? Do you represent the hard times that faces all Gurkhas? Who are you to walk out from a COALITION at your own ‘bandobasta’? Does our burhos who paid so
    much NCRs know your plan? Yes, we accept and admire Mr Padambahadur Gurung but he has lost his footing and doesn’t understand developments neither does Mr Chintan. GAESO toli, President Mugabe jasto hunu bhayena, OK!!
    Anyone receiving this mail is requested to forward it along. If any GAESO members want to talk to me personally, especially what GAESO has been upto, call me on 07737 519714 if you have got the balls. I will keep a record and publish the results. All GAESO members are blind and led by 2
    people, 1 is new the other has forgotten his way. Oh dear, GAESO, go straight ahead, use the stick Britain has given you. You are lost. Gurkhas WAKE-UP!!!!!!
    Ganesh

  • 62. yam limbu  |  April 6th, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    mr rai don,t sout too much ok ,how much you contribute in your org every month think that before you speake i know you which org from mr rai, don,t blame only geaso, and i understand you have share holder with your org that good for you may be not ok

  • 63. Rai  |  April 6th, 2007 at 9:52 pm

    Dear Yame Limbu k chha your self also bhuro manchhe haru ko poesha khane ma paro ho plz don’t do that for god sheck

  • 64. Raj Rai  |  April 6th, 2007 at 10:02 pm

    hi yam limbu ji
    im one of the vectim of GAESO cuz i paid firstly NR 125,000 2nd time i paid NR 7,000 so GAESO took all my money no visa nothin till then so like me there 400 bhuro paty haru chha tell me what do you do with this yame limbu sale shoshak.

  • 65. Damar Thapa, Hong Kong  |  April 6th, 2007 at 11:32 pm

    I found Dr. Hall’s arguments - in support of his view “Gurkhas get a fair deal” - insulting to all Gurkhas. Who he is trying to convince with those one-sided arguments? Gurkhas now need far more sophisticated answers, and he has not answered all aspects of this issue.

    According to Dr. Hall, every new recruit (Gurkha recruit) has been made perfectly well aware of the Gurkha Pension Scheme (GPS) linked to Indian Gurkhas according to the 1947 tripartite agreement, so it is a fair deal. But, it never was the British Government claim in the past – it was rather claimed that the above-said 1947 agreement was a legal barrier in bringing GPS to the British Armed Forces Pension Scheme 75 (AFPS 75) standard, which, Dr. Hall should be aware, has proven wrong. Since he has raised this argument, were the Gurkhas who were discharged after 1 Jun 1997 briefed differently when they were recruited?

    Dr. Hall thinks that the GPS is not a substandard version of the British AFPS 75. If he really thinks that, I suggest him to make the GPS opened to all British Army and see how many (non-Gurkha) British soldiers with 15 years of service will choose the GPS over the British AFPS 75.

    It is “outrageous” that Gurkhas who served for the duration of World War II receive no pension for their war service, but it is - outrageously enough - not Dr. Hall’s statement. He defended the British Government’s decision of not paying pension to Gurkha WWII veterans by saying that this is the case for all British soldiers who served during the WWII period, and only Gurkha veterans receive Gurkha Welfare Scheme assistance. His argument is contradictory.

    He argued that since Gurkhas had served in the far-east, not in the United Kingdom, Gurkhas can not have adequate ties with the United Kingdom for the purpose of settlement in the United Kingdom. But the reality is that Gurkhas serverd the British Crown (not Nepalese Government), like himself, were based in the British Territories, and never hesitated to put their lives at risk for the British Crown, what else Gurkhas should give to have adequate ties with the United Kingdom? If WWII Gurkha veterans can not have adequate ties with the United Kingdom, why should they care about whether their British comrades are or are not paid pensions? The British comrades were after all defending their own country, but the Gurkhas, according to his own words, have/had no adequate ties with the United Kingdom!

    If I have understood correctly, the Gurkha Welfare Scheme is not funded by the British Government, but is a donation funded charitable scheme. If this is the case, why the British Government is bragging so much about this? The charities, by nature, should be on “need to assist” basis, and had the British WWII veterans were in the same level of poverty as their Gurkha counterparts, the British Government would not have stayed quietly.

    Lastly, Dr. Hall’s article – as it may have intended to defend the decision of the British Government - has actually weakened the British position on the issue.

    Damar Thapa, Hong Kong

  • 66. Damar Thapa, Hong Kong  |  April 7th, 2007 at 10:12 am

    Dear all,

    Pardon my ignorance! Since I am not associated with any Gurkha organizations, I am bit lost on the allegation against GAESO (it is a serious allegation). If it is correct, it is not good for Gurkhas (Gurkhas, I believe, do not care which organization, but Gurkha unity itself!).

    Not much information at gaeso.info (I actually could not access the server yesterday). GAESO, I believe, should come forward and clarify this immediately. Gurkhas should not be kept in the dark!

    With regards,

    Damar Thapa, Hong Kong

  • 67. lakpa lama  |  April 7th, 2007 at 12:28 pm

    SERIAL 61 GAESEO. WE MUST IMMEDIATELY MAKE A REPORT TO THE POLICE IN NEPAL, UK AND HONG KONG IN ORDER TO INVESTIGATE THIS ALLEGATION. IF PROVED CORRECT THEN GAESEO AND THE MEMBERS MUST BE MADE TO FACE CHARGES OF SWINDLING UNDER RELEVANT LAW. MY GOD GAESO MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE CHEATING POOR OLD PENSIONERS AND WIDOWS. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.

    MR. RATNA THAPA UK. PLEASE I URGE YOU DO EVERYTHING TO INFORM ALL GURKHA PENSIONERS EVERYWHERE. PRINT THIS IN NEWS PAPERS GATHER THE PENSIONERS AND INFORM THEM IN VILLAGES ETC. MY GOD WHAT A SHAMEFUL ACT.

  • 68. lakpa lama  |  April 7th, 2007 at 1:44 pm

    Dear Damar Thapa, Hong Kong

    Referring to your counter comments at Serial 65 I find it very encouraging for ex Gurkhas. Why not pass it to Kantipur for possile publication, if I may make a suggestion? And regarding GAESO it is very disturbing. One of my relations, of course, an ex serviceman, made some donation to the organisation in the past. You are right they owe all ex Gurkhas an explanation. They must never hoodwink the old pensioners!!

  • 69. Damar Thapa  |  April 7th, 2007 at 2:33 pm

    Hi Lakpa,

    Thank you much for your comment — truly appreciated. I have submitted that comment in ekantipur as well, but I have no idea how they will take it!

    Thanks once again.

    With regards,
    Damar

  • 70. Damar Thapa, Hong Kong  |  April 7th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

    Dear all,

    I had not seen the statement of GAESO at http://www.gaeso.org.uk/?id=issue2 , titled “गोरखाहरुको एकताका सम्बन्धमा फैलाएको भ्रमप्रति ध्यानाअष्ना”. I did not know www.gaeso.info and www.gaeso.org.uk are two different sites, and sadly both sites look very much under-construction – many links do not work!

    From the above-said statement, I have got the impression that (i) a meeting was held on 18 Mar 07 at Farnborough, UK, and (ii) the 28 March Gurkha protest was launched jointly.

    The statement, however, has raised more questions than it actually has answered. As far as I can see, the 28 March protest was a success, and if GAESO thinks otherwise, it should inform its members accordingly! Simply because it has to be discussed with its 65 branches before accepting the coalition is not the right answer! The question should be if the coalition is beneficial to Gurkhas or not, and if it is beneficial, all Gurkhas organizations should accept, or they cannot be Gurkha organizations at all!

    The GAESO’s statement unfortunately has not answered the question it should be answering!

    The GAESO, I hope, will come forward and clarify these.

    With regards,

    Damar Thapa

  • 71. mangol  |  April 7th, 2007 at 9:26 pm

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  • 72. Raj  |  April 7th, 2007 at 10:30 pm

    Dear Reader
    I also like to mention you all that The EX-BRITISH GURKHA FORUM has sighned by all party except GAESO. The certificate was as follows:

    EX- GURKHA FORUM CERTIFICATE OF AGREEMENT

    We, the undersighned, hereby agree to abide by the agreement set out on this day, Sundat, the 18th of March at the Oak Farm Community School, UK to be member of the joint AD HOC committee and adhere to the following terms:

    1. Always work as one entity and not just for thebenefit of one’s own prganisation on all ex-British Gurkhas cause.

    2. Always share and maintain communication with each other on all issues relevant to the ex-British Gurkhas cause.

    3. Always hold a meeting before any event to decide modus operandi best suited for that particular event to the best achive our aim and not to work individually on all ex-British Gurkhas cases.

    4. Always refer to the term ex-British Gurkhaa and not one’s own organisation name whenever an event is organised for ex-British Gurkha causes.

    5. Always help, support and work together with the coordinating team on all ex-British Gurkha causes and respect their impartial views/decisions made after consulation with all existing organisatios: GAESO, BGWS, UBGEAN AND NESO.

    Signature:

    MAHENDRALAL RAI
    GENERAL SECRETARY, GAESO

    Signature:

    TIKENDRADAL DEWAN
    CHAIRMAN, BGWS

    Signature:

    GYANRAJ RAI
    SECRETARY, UBGEAN

    Signature:

    INDRABAHADUR GURUNG
    CHIEF DELEGATION, NESO

    The above paper has sighned by 3 organisation on the day but GAESO secretary took the paper to Chintan to read for him and Chintan told him to wait for Padam’s decision. What a joke!!!! Now, GAESO is not on this track. We, who are in UK today, fully understand this organisation’s (GAESO) mission. The GAESO leaders are fighting for them to survive not for pre 97 wallas. The longer the compign goes more Bhasan and collecting more money. BE AWARE WITH PEOPLE.

    Regards all

    Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj……. UK

  • 73. Damar Thapa, Hong Kong  |  April 8th, 2007 at 8:56 am

    Dear all,

    GAESO’s action is, possibly, suicidal.

    Gurkhas understand the importance of Gurkha unity, and in the above agreement (Message 72), the GAESO is seen as a roadblock. The GAESO, in my view, not only represents its 65 branches worldwide, but thousands of average Gurkhas who have contributed for this cause, is this the wish of those Gurkhas? Were they made aware of this agreement? The GAESO’s statement has not mentioned how this decision was made! It is disturbing!

    With regards,

    Damar

  • 74. Raj Kumar Rai  |  April 8th, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    Thanks to all.

    For their comments (Positive or Negative about GAESO)

    Sachchei Nei Bhanne Ho Bhane GAESO Ex- British Gurkhas haru ko lagi sabei bhanda purano “Sangathan” ho. Bich- Bicha ma kehi utar chadab ko babjud yas Sangathan ko upalabdhi lai hami le sidhei nakarna mildeina. Huna ta Byaktigat Rupma kehi Sathiharu ( Mamaharu PALTANE BHSHA MA ) Yas Sangathan Bat Pidit Hunu Hunchha Hola. Tyo Afno Thau Ma Chha. Jastei Raj Ji, Ratna Ji Haru …..( Comment ko Adhar Ma).
    Bastab Ma Arthik Pachha Kunei Pani Sanstha Tatha Sangathan Haru Ko Merudanda Ho Bhane, Yes Ko Pardarsita ko Pani Utikei Awashyak Pardachha. Ra Uchit Lagani Ko Pani.Hoina Bhane Yes Bat Sangathan Prati Bitrisna Janmana Thaldachha.Ra Yestei Kisim Ko Batawaran Ko Srijana Yes GAESO Ma Nahos. Yahi Mero Chahana. Sathei Pragati ko Shubhakamana.

  • 75. Limbu  |  April 9th, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Raj Rai jee tapain kahile bhanjha, kahile mama,kahile kathmandu ma gaeso lai 125000 paisa bujhaune budo manchhe baniyera comments lekhnu bhayeko chha, ra 1000.00 pounds ko ispastikaran pani didai hunuhunchha actually who you are? Banauti comments KINA? THANKS.

  • 76. yam limbu  |  April 9th, 2007 at 7:19 pm

    mr raj raiji i do not understand you look likes pagalpan because of your saing.leser mind only discuss peaple i don, t thinks so you pay for 125.000 thoused rupees for geaso but you pay for ILR that is right but don,t blame to geaso. example you aply for british pp you have to pay for fee that incase rejected by home office they will not pay you back ok whatever you blame geaso. gaeso is fighting whole gurkhas not for self one day you diffinitly blame your org and your self this is true whatever you said
    thanks

  • 77. gurkhas patriot  |  April 10th, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    dear all
    all the comments above debating for only Gaeso, why not debate bgws as well i feel that the work done by tikendra dewan has been done for only his selfish needs. for example, why does he go to MOD meetings? if he had gone to the meeting why doesnt he speak about the present matters???.according the speech given by him in the news, why did he not want any kind of andolan on 28th of march??? big question huh? surprised us didnt it? why are people complaining about paying 8,000 rupees to GAESO.which contribution is for the life membership whereas people from BGWS are contributing a sum of minimum £10 that too every month and they are also shareholders collecting the sum of minimum £1000 for the business purpose. is that the right move to take for an organistation in order to do some business? BGWS are known as an organisation to fight for the gurkha’s right, but all they are trying to do is business and earn money. the person seriusly took part in BGWS while they established and now most of them out of this orgnisation if BGWS did well for all ex British Gurkhas they could have stayed with BGWS that,s the big quition,bokeko kukur le shikar mardaina!!!!
    Remember our great great father,grandfather,father
    and the senier brothers hard work and dignitis give all this sort of benefits you guys forgeting to them its makes only selfishness to you get pye for your organition
    BGWS is also known as 76 district organition not a proper nepalese ex Gurkha’s. see why? they were brought up from diffirent huminity so they never relies for were nepalese Gurkhas coming from. because they were migrated scince 200 years in india and they think that they are only the ones can do cummunicated in English but language is not everything for fight for the Gurkhas REMEMBER WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE COMING FROM.

  • 78. Khapung  |  April 10th, 2007 at 9:19 pm

    Hello, Gurkha Patroit
    you rightly said that 8000 ruppees is for life membership in GAESO. but when i asked about my membership they didn’t have any records of it. i have also given some donation but no records of it either..
    i don’t know about BGWS. i just heard it is established in UK.
    LAU BABU MERO CHANDAKO KHOJ GARNU PARYO.

  • 79. ex gurkhas  |  April 11th, 2007 at 1:20 am

    The above paragraph 77 commence thats true and i agreed with that .But bgws is collecting money from the members to build hospital in nepal is that our burning requirment in the current situation? BGWS is very intested to buld a hospital rather then fighting for Gurkhas right according to BGWS news statement this org is trying to do the bussiness
    bujnuhos

  • 80. Rai Dharan  |  April 11th, 2007 at 3:33 am

    Hello…w..Dear 79 kaha chhau ke if BGWS not here then you will be in Koelakhhani ok broo do not mess liad the people ok EX Gurkha

  • 81. Rai Dharan  |  April 11th, 2007 at 3:36 am

    British Gurkha servicemen to continue fight for rights

    Kantipur Report

    KATHMANDU, April 8 - British Gurkha Welfare Society (BGWS), which has been launching protests against the British government demanding for equal pensions to all ex-servicemen, said Sunday that it would continue its legal fights for the rights of the British Gurkhas.
    The BGWS said that it was planning to file a petition at the UK court within the next three months demanding that the British government revoke its decision to provide pensions to only those who retire from their services after July 1, 1997.

    “We urge the British government to review its discriminatory decision,” Tikendra Dal Dewan, chairman of BGWS told a press conference in Kathmandu today.

    He said that the Society would move the European court if the British court lends a deaf ear to their demands. “

    “Distribution of equal pensions to all ex-Gurkha servicemen and their settlement rights are some of our major demands with the UK government,” said Dewan, adding, “The cut off date–July 1, 1997—the day when Britain handed Hong Kong to China and took back its (UK’s) Army brigade home, is baseless. Wherever our regiments were stationed before or after the date, we were providing our services to the British force.”

    He also urged the Nepal Government to provide a dual citizenship to ex-Gurkha servicemen who have been granted British citizenship. “The leaders of the eight parties during our recent meeting had pledged to put pressure on the government to help grant dual citizenship to us.”

    Dewan also informed that the British government had accepted the BGWS’s demands of recruiting Nepali women in the UK Army. “The women will be recruited as clerks and cooks.”

    Former British Gurkhas in late March wrote a letter to British Prime Minister Tony Blair demanding service perks and benefits equivalent to those given to their British counterparts. They also staged a protest demonstration in front of the UK Ministry of Defense building.

    Stating that the British government’s decision to give full British Army pensions only to those Gurkhas who retired after July 1, 1997 was injustice to 22,000 other Gurkhas who had retired earlier, the former Gurkhas have demanded that the British government correct its decision.

    Earlier, on March 8, the British Parliament had decided that Gurkhas—who had retired after 1997—would finally get full British Army pensions, nearly 200 years after they started fighting for the UK.

  • 82. pidit magar  |  April 11th, 2007 at 3:19 pm

    जती पनि गुर्खज को बारेमा लेख्नु हुन्छ वहाँ हरुलाई सलाम गर्दै म के भन्न मन लाग्छ भने फैसला सबै गोराले दिन्छन हामी बेकार्मा हुने नहुने लेख्दैमा केही हुँदै न
    न नेपाल बनेयोउ न नेपाली बनेयोउ जहिले यस्तै संसार को जुनै कुना मा बसेपनि बहादुरि गुर्खा ;ले गर्दा होङ कोङ यु के बुर्नैइ जहाँ तही बस्न पएका छओउ
    फेरी किन हुने नहुने भन्छोउ जस्ले यहाँ सम्मा गरिदिय अज यौ संसारमा छैन्न उनिहरु तेस्कारणले मान्व जुन अधिकार छ ढिलो चाडओ गर्ने छन
    तपाईं हामी भना भन गरेर केही हुँदैन खुरु खुरु नोकारी पनि गर्नु यु के हुने ले यु के होङ कोङ हुनेले होङ कोङ
    बेला बेला मा सबै जानु प्र्छ लाहुरेको माग पर्ती
    भन्दै दुखिमन पीडित मगर बिदा माग्छु

  • 83. ex gurkhas  |  April 11th, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    Ref 78 Khapung’s coments is probebly the right because i have heared same coments from some other members,Khapung dai,may be there is some recording problem amongs the treasurers working in Nepal for finencial.The best way to do is go and ask to whom gave that sum of amount.
    Over here in uk,we all GEASO’s members are trying to keep in very carefull those who are doing funding to make sure it won’t go wrong any more.
    In the next general meeting i will motion your coment but i need your address and full name also the name of whom gave it to.
    May be the person you gave money is resigned.

  • 84. Khapung  |  April 11th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

    hello, ex gurkha
    whether that person is risigned or not i want my membership activiate. also i want a record of donation. it is too late you only updating now the records, in UK how about us in Nepal who is doing it Nepal? how long the GAESO have been established? why didn’t you do it before? this is not a joke, i have been hearing rumour, that there has been some corruption on our donation money. if you don’t justify it, not only me we are about 100 people thinking of leaving this organisation. either sort this out ASAP or risk loosing the valuable members.

    Uhi, Khapung
    Nepal

  • 85. Sunita Limbu  |  April 12th, 2007 at 8:02 am

    Gurkha not only save Nepal and introduce in the world as a “Land of bravest of the brave people”.

    Gurkha gave their precious lives and save the world in World war 1st and 2nd. It is the greatest things to do, sacrifice and devotion for all human kind.

    Gurkha are our all Nepalese pride, Gurkha our history, Gurkha are our ancesters, Gurkha is our national introduction and national income sources, Gurkha is Nepal and Nepalese.

    It is very important to build Gurkha Memorial places in Nepal.

    British and India governmetn must help us. But we Nepalese must take initiating and ask demand to british and indian government. Gurkha and we deserve Gurkha memorial in Nepal.

    What do you think?

  • 86. Ex Sgt Major  |  April 12th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    Gorkhali ko salla kharani ko dalla! It is as clear as daylight that the Gurkhas will never unite. They will never be able to show a true statement of account for any period. They will never agree to any audit inspection. They thrive and survive only in murky waters!! Ke garne???????

  • 87. numa limbu  |  April 12th, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    sabai vanda pahile HK ka daju vai didi baini haruma derai derai danne bat chha kina ki 28 ko porgamharu akdam ramrori garnu vayechha. ma matra navayera hami vayera hamro adikarlai khojnu parchha hamile kunai vikh mageko hoina hamile ta hamro adikar ra pasina ragatko mulleya maggeko ho yesari nai hamile GAESO ko sawapati PADAM gulai haisema haise sagaunu parchha yehinai mero hajurharu mathi anurod gardachhu ra yehi naya barsa2064 saalsangai hamro jit hos vane asa gardachu

  • 88. Dil  |  April 17th, 2007 at 6:33 am

    URGENT – Private & Confidential

    Mr Ganesh Limbu
    12 Ash Close
    Kent
    TN23 3JU
    E-mail: limbuganesh@yahoo.com

    Dear Ganesh,

    IMPENDING DEFAMATION ACTION – IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED

    On or around 4 April 2007 you published an email to Hiradhan Rai of the British Gurkha Welfare Society and similarly published the same or similar email (at various other dates) to other persons and/or organisations. Your email was published through your account: limbuganesh@yahoo.com.

    The contents of the said email are defamatory and seriously damage our reputations individually and/or collectively as members/associates of the management of GAESO.

    Individually we are shocked and hurt by your libellous publication, and GAESO as a body is extremely deeply concerned with your attitude towards our beloved organisation, its founding President, Mr Padam Bahadur Gurung, and our leading human rights lawyer from Nepal, Mr Gopal Chintan. Your defamatory email includes libels which are, inter alia, actionable per se. For example, you have alleged that we have been involved in criminal activity by alleging that we have “robbed the poor” for our own benefit. In addition, you have deliberately sought to widen the scope of your malicious and damaging publication, by inciting recipients of your emails to re-publish your libels.

    To be absolutely clear, the libellous allegations you have made about us in your emails are totally and utterly denied. Your allegations of criminality, impropriety, negligence, and mis-management etc are completely denied.

    We have already taken legal advice from a firm of solicitors in London. They confirm that your emails are defamatory, and that we have an immediate cause of action against you personally. We reserve our position to instruct our solicitors to commence legal proceedings against you in the High Court in London, seeking an injunction prohibiting you from publishing further defamatory statements and requiring you to pay an award of damages. Our solicitors have advised us that if we are forced to commence legal proceedings against you and we succeed in our claim, the High Court is almost certainly likely to order that you pay our wasted legal costs (our solicitors have indicated that the legal costs of a full libel trial will be in the region of £70,000 to £150,000).

    In order to limit the damaged caused by your defamatory email publication, you must take all of the following steps on or before 5 pm on 19 April 2007:
    1. Provide us with a written undertaking that you will not personally and/or by your servants or agents cause to be published any further defamatory statements in the terms of your attached email of 4 April 2007, including any statements which damage the reputations (jointly or severally) of GAESO, President Gurung, and GAESO’s legal adviser Mr Chintan.

    2. Provide us with a complete list of every person and/or organisation to whom you have published your defamatory statements (as set out in the email of 4 April 2007 , below) and/or any similar defamatory statements.

    3. Publish an email apology for the defamatory statements made in your email of 4 April 2007, indicating that you recognise your damaging allegations contained in that email were completely untrue, and thereafter copy the said email apology to GAESO, President Gurung, GAESO’s legal adviser Mr Chintan, and to every person/organisation listed by you in point 2 above. We reserve the right to publish your apology wider, and as we may see fit.

    If you fail to comply, in full, with all the requirements set out in points 1 to 3 above (inclusive), we will place this matter in the hands of our London solicitors without further notice to you and ask them to commence a legal suit against you in the British High Court. We also reserve the right to present this letter to the Court, on the question of our wasted legal costs and the matter of damages.

    You are now also on notice that with immediate effect GAESO has terminated any and all associations with you. You are no longer a member or adviser of the GAESO UK Ashford Committee.

    Please find attached the copies your emails we have received and which were published by you.

    Yours sincerely,

    Mahendra Lal Rai
    General-Secretary (for and on behalf of GAESO)

  • 89. Khapung  |  April 17th, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    Hello, General Secretary jiu
    what is going on who is this Ganesh Limbu
    whatever the allegation, have you try to rectify the problems within your organisation.
    why this serious action being taken against him. this is not only breaking us down but it is very degrading in the eyes of those people whom we are fighting against.
    if he was a member of GEASO, surely it is a domestic matter, which has to sort it out within ourself.
    if you can’t control one person how can you control 40,000 thousand people? are we going to sue them all?
    please stop this nonesence, and start investigating on it. please remember GAESO is not your personal Organisation, don’t lets us down, or we will rebel against as well.
    jai, Gurkhas

  • 90. Manilal  |  April 17th, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    ……not good for solidarity. ….eventually boils down to money!
    Mr. Limbu should read the Auditor’s report and Articles of association of this non profit organisation which is doing good work for ex Gurkhas. Audited statement of account, showing all income (donations, investments etc) and expenditure (salaries, travel, meetings, hirings etc) is published six monthly and published for the information of all members. All members including Limbu have the right to access to this information and he should study them before making such damaging statements and allegations. Now he is in hot chilly soup!

  • 91. Raj Rai  |  April 17th, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    Mr Mahendralal Rai
    General Secretary
    GAESO

    Mahendra dai,

    Thanks for posting the notice for legal action against me on the eve of Nepal’s New Year Day. If GAESO wants to take its own GAESO member fighting for equal rights against the UK Government to the UK court because of some unsavoury comments by a member as defammatory, I have no power to stop it. We kill our own supporters. But I believe, as a GAESO member I have the right to voice my own opinion on isues that affects us all and what goes on.

    Anyway, I will voluntarily spend a couple of months in jail, longer if necessary, which will make MOD/HQBG laugh and make laughing stocks of all Gurkhas. Perhaps, you don’t know that another libel suit is also coming my way, no not from Gurkha organisations this time but as a result of writing and fighting for our Gurkha rights - the other side. Will you all help me?

    The e-mail comments of 04/04/07 were made out of anger because the 18/03/2007 mandate in which you represented GAESO for unity was about to be broken as published in the local Nepali papers. My comments was meant to be constructive criticisms to tighten our belts for the fight ahead. But it was sadly intepreted as malicious and defamatory etc etc. Yes, I do accept and apologise to Chintanji because some of the comments I made about him was really not necessary and not professional. I hope he and President GAESO understands this and as you have also suddenly ex-communicated me from GAESO membership because of my comments, again, what can I do, I am powerless to stop it. Please rest assured that as a non-GAESO member with effect from today, I have no further interest nor will I write anything in the future . It’s pointless anyway.

    One final hint to all Gurkhas before the Executive Committee, GAESO withdraws my membership, MOD are planning a package that will stop all British public support for Gurkhas. I hope I am wrong but mark my words. My best wishes to you all for the continued struggle and fight for equality. Jai Gurkhas!!

    Signed
    Ganesh Limbu

  • 92. raj Rai  |  April 17th, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    I think Ganesh has quite rightly pointed out the problems facing by Gaeso. The executive committe represent thousands of members and pulling out from coalition without taking their members decision is something I find very interesting. The main person behind the veil is now to be kicked out once an for all. It’s about time Gaeso realise their downfall and as long as their so called lawyer is in control I don’t they will ever be able to achieve anything for gurkhas. Wake up Gaeso members!!

  • 93. G Gurung  |  April 19th, 2007 at 6:55 am

    I don’t think any members who are loyal supporters of GAESO reading this pathetic comments of G Limbu need to worry, this was of course very damaging but GAESO had lunatics like him from the very first day. Jump in and have everything his way? Don’t think anyone would agree. Whatever actions are being taken aginst him, he deserves it. Rest assured the financial activities are as clear as mirror from the Ward committee to the central and open to all GAESO members. G Limbu is a hypocrite and in his own language an eunuch.

  • 94. Rai  |  April 19th, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    G Gurung Ji why GAESO office clos in Kathmandu we want help from you please

  • 95. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 21st, 2007 at 10:06 am

    Mt dear G Gurng,

    It is very nice to have read the comments you have posted but be advised that you may be a ‘WORDMASTER’ that doesn’t mean you can write anything you like so please watch your language!

    For HKNepal.com - you will place your business in jeopardy if you are not careful with what you are posting on your website.

  • 96. deo  |  April 25th, 2007 at 10:48 am

    Hi all readers according to Raj he might be right as far as i knew here in HK Ex Gurkhas paid for GAESO hk$17000 plus for the application of ILE 6 month before but untill now they have not apply yet. What the hell GAESO doing till now? Just they are having interview individually those who paid the money in hk from 23rd to 26th apr here in HK.And still they are asking to add the money more then hk$ 4000 for visa fee increasement if so why they are de3laying to apply what they did till now. So all the gurkhas need to thing very deeply why they held the interview now after long time we paid the money.Becouse we paid the money before increase the visa fee 6 month before > The british consulate anounce increament of visa fee just last month so why we need to add more money it is rediculers.

  • 97. K Pun  |  April 27th, 2007 at 7:22 pm

    aba paisa khayo… refund hundaina…. immigration, ILE ko niyam haru ramrari boojhnu parchha…. qualify bhaena bhane .. lawer le haru le ke garnu sakchha… fee matra mang chha! abo euta anda phutyo phutyo…

  • 98. Ratna Thapa (uk)  |  April 28th, 2007 at 3:05 am

    शम्‍पुणँ गोर्‌खालि दाज्‍यु भाई तथा दिदीबहिनिहरु
    यहाहरुलाई स्रबोधितै छ कि हाल हामिहरुको संघ्रशको बारेमा
    यसकै शन्‍द्रभमा हाम्रा बिभिन्‍न संधशस्‍थाहरूले आआफ्‍नै ठाऊमा आआफ्‍नै तरीकाले संध्रश
    गरिरहेका छौं र त्‍यसकै बावजूत धेर थोर शफलता पाएकाछौं
    तर हाम्रो गन्‍तब्‍यमा पुग्‍नु धेरै लामो र कठिन यात्रा ग्रनु बाकि नै छ
    तर हामिहरु भने बिच बाटोमानै भागबन्‍डा्‍ कसले कति भन्‍नेतिर अल्‍मलियजस्‍तो देखिदैछँ
    हे्रनुहोश आज जजसले आफ्‍नो ब्‍यक्‍तिगत श्‍वा्रथा अथवा जातिगत श्‍वा्रथा को कारणले हाम्रो आन्‍दोलनमा आँच ल्‍याउने काम ग्रछ भने
    उक्‍त ब्‍यक्‍तीलाई शम्‍पु्रण गो्रखालि र हाम्रा शन्‍ततिहरूले त माफ दीने कुरै छैन इतिहासले पनि सराप्‍ने छ ंचेतना भयाे

    WE WON’T BE HESITATE TO FOLLOW OUR FAMOUS TRADITION.

  • 99. Saran Kumar Limbu  |  April 28th, 2007 at 2:12 pm

    Dear HKNepal.com,

    I should like to request the person who has posted this ” All Nepalese BN(O) Holders to get British Citizenship ?” under the article RIGHT TO CITIZENSHIP published on South China Morning Post on 4 July 2006.
    This obviously is very tempting and alluring notice to “SIDHA SADHA PEOPLE” but this is only illusion unless the last paragraph of the article is not applicable otherwise there are requirements to be met and many of them can not meet.
    I would be very very happy if the HKNepal.com can justify its staement.

  • 100. durga  |  April 28th, 2007 at 5:21 pm

    yes I think you r correct. some BN O holders were turned back from Heathrow recently. this is a serious matter.. read and understand everyword carefully before making application. dont be tempted and waste yr time money.

  • 101. yam limbu  |  April 29th, 2007 at 12:31 am

    Daer ratna thapa ji
    you are 100% right . we have to be a one voice whatever we do whetever stand to achived our aim we have to one ummrella why peaple arguing that is nonsence only seto bather make lough west of time to arguing each other sometime peaple make mistake but we have to understand peaple learn by mistake .whatever and whoever org we have to respect but they should have a willing to do right for gurkhas from bottom of heart
    that is my commence for all gukhas
    thanks
    yam limbu

  • 102. Karan  |  April 30th, 2007 at 4:20 am

    I am strongly agreed serials 98-101 because the sense of humour of those people who are clearly stand for pro-Gorkhas particularly Ratna Thapa. There are lot of senses on his comment. We know that every one try to give their best effort on their part but some of them find very difficult to understand the core values for the Gorkhas (known as Gurkhas). Anyway it will take time to clear out their illusion and begin to understand the core values of our own. “If you stand for nothing you will fall for anything” Just be United. Jai Gorkha.

  • 103. HANUMAN BAHADUR  |  May 4th, 2007 at 9:52 am

    Hello GAESO PRESIDENT PADAM BAHADUR GURUNG,
    I wanna tell you one thing that yaha HK ma bhayeka Ex-Gurkha Servicemen haru bata HK$ 8,000 uthayeta pani jun kuro ra mag haru gari raheka chan British Sarkar sanga,that must be done 100% clearly as soon as possible and hope nobody is playing the game.”AYO GURKHALI” JINDABAAD.
    Thank you very .

  • 104. krish  |  May 7th, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    GAESO,BGWS,UBGEAN,NESO
    kina ho!!!!!!!!!!!
    Because sabailai CHAIR (KURSI)
    chaahinchha k.
    so hami aruharu kina discuss!!!
    karma garnu parchha, kam garera family palnu
    parchha hai.
    dherai tauko nadukhaaau.
    BE HAPPY
    HA………
    HA……..
    HA…….

  • 105. pun  |  May 8th, 2007 at 9:24 am

    i agree with ser104. dont fool yourself with false hope. aphai kam nagari sansar ma ke puncha ra. happy, happy to all!

  • 106. Karan  |  May 10th, 2007 at 4:01 am

    simple theory ta tehi ho but people won’t let you do that. therefore people are sharing their good/bad views to make progress either ways. but remember the core values in the middle of the anything else. in terms of our own case be a pro-Gorkhas rather than living humiliated over the next 2 centuries. cheers

  • 107. deoraj  |  May 10th, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    I think you have put it very well that we Gorkhas have to remember the core values in the middle of anything else, good or bad views. And like a true brave Gorkha be a pro-Gorkha. We have to be united if we are to save ourselves from living humiliated. But I think we have a very high obstacle in the make up of our society itself. You are rai, i am gurung, he is limbu, my friend is magar, high caste, low caste, bahun, chhetri, east, west, mountains, plains, your tradition, my custom etc etc. Then you are richer, he is richer, i am poor,he is educated, i am not. Educated taking advantage of straight upright fellows. Every day we are getting humiliated by our own kind, in our own land and this has been going on for many, many centuries. I think by looking at this core and understanding the reasons behind why and how we are conditioned to have our thinking the way it is, we may find the answer as to how to think pro-Gorkha. The question is can we do it?

    Why do we have so many organisations, GAESO,BGWS,UBGEAN,NESO? Why is it not possible to have just one big organisation with branches in all the places where they are needed?

  • 108. lalkaji  |  May 11th, 2007 at 12:22 pm

    asal kuro garnu bho…ektanai bal ho bhanne kura thaha nahune biralai hola hami Gorkhali haru ma….tara ke garnu jiu sabai thok bhane jasto bha hamro muluk jun halat ma gujri rahe ko chha tyo hune nai thiena ni…euta sanstha bhupu ko sambhaw chha tara … man, bichar dhara kahan eutai hunchha ra.. sodhnu hos yi
    GAESO,BGWS,UBGEAN,NESO sanstha ka president jiu haru lai, sayad tapain ko jawab paunu hunchha hola….. lau hai hajur

  • 109. Gurkha Legion  |  June 14th, 2007 at 5:44 am

    My Dear Gurkha friends,

    Going through serial of articles, comments, complains, suggestions, advices, bhana-bairis etcs in this side of the net I have the privilege to evaluate the level of thinking of British Gurkhas.

    Look guys, have communial feelings and think of working as a team. Be devoted to your institution or organisation. Having more organisation or institution is better. It gives you more space to compete but think positive. The benefit it gives you in your sociel life and the power it creats when things go against your will is superb.

    However, transparent is the main mantra and masive discussion is the strength of an institude or an organisation. It seems to me that you guys have one man show.

    Mr. Ganesh Limbu and Mr. Raj Rai are right cause true always will be sour.

    Subject: Defragmentation of Gurkha Organisation - A Shameful Act
    Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 14:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
    Dear All,
    GAESO, GAESO why have you broken the coalition. Where is the money that Mr Sangrola has borrowed (RS 2 crores), can you assholes recoup the money let alone the intersest?, the money invested in various Kathmandu land, Sainik Awaz etc, etc paid for by our poor baje/bojus. You all have robbed the poor to enjoy your lifestyle. Why is Mr Chindtan in UK, he can be better employed in Nepal, fighting for dual citizenship for Gurkhas and all Nepalise throughout the world. As an Intepreter?? Excuse me, do British Gurkhas need so called intepreters when English is the key medium for communication? Give me a call and I will intepret or write for any Gurkhas for FREE!!!!!!!!
    Unfortunately, GAESO President cannot live without him. “Nepali ko bhasan le UK ma kei pani khesdaina” Unity is the key and bye-bye to GAESO.
    More to follow on this issue - watch out. You have opted out without SEEKING views from your members. Are you the KING OF GURKHAS? Do you represent the hard times that faces all Gurkhas? Who are you to walk out from a COALITION at your own ‘bandobasta’? Does our burhos who paid so much NCRs know your plan? Yes, we accept and admire Mr Padambahadur Gurung but he has lost his footing and doesn’t understand developments neither does Mr Chintan. GAESO toli, President Mugabe jasto hunu bhayena, OK!!
    Anyone receiving this mail is requested to forward it along. If any GAESO members want to talk to me personally, especially what GAESO has been upto, call me on 07737 519714 if you have got the balls. I will keep a record and publish the results. All GAESO members are blind and led by 2
    people, 1 is new the other has forgotten his way. Oh dear, GAESO, go straight ahead, use the stick Britain has given you. You are lost. Gurkhas WAKE-UP!!!!!!
    Ganesh

    55. raj Rai | April 6th, 2007 at 12:53 am
    Dear all ex Gurkhali haro,
    I totally agree with Mr Ganesh’s comments. Why have they opted to withdraw from the Joint Movement campaign? Surely, if they have ex Gurkha’s best interest at heart, they should be moving forward with the rest of the orgs side by side not the other way round. GAESO has once again shown us their true colours and let every GURKHALI haru down. Personally, a case of deja vu dating back to Judicial Review 2003. This was a case where GAESO lost in the High Court but sadly Padam and his so call ‘Interpreter none other than Chintan’ lied to everyone in Nepal that GAESO had won the case for pension equality.
    I am also very interested to know if this decision to boycott the Joint Movement was made by Just 4 people (Chintan ‘Blood sucker No 1), Padam (Blood sucker No 2), Mahendra (Blood sucker No 3) and Puranjang (Blood sucker No 4) or did they had a democratic vote within their society before taken this detrimental step !!!
    There is a strong rumour here in Kathmandu that GAESO will beinvesting 48 crores to built a building - but why. Surely, if they have over collected from the buros and widows, wouldnt it be sensible to return part of it back rather than investing it?
    I urge all GAESO members to think hard about this decision made by our leaders. I dare you to challenge their decision because I for one, certainly will.
    Gurkhas Wake - Up now or forever hold your peace
    Raj Rai

    We are Hong Kong based organisation mixture of British, Indian, Singapore Police and Nepalese Gurkhas including BSF. Our aim is to form up a Gurkha political forum in near future and support Gurkhas and their families.

    For security reason we will not be disclosing our proper location until the time is right.

    Jai Gurkhas!!!

  • 110. Ratna Thapa(UK)  |  June 15th, 2007 at 10:01 pm

    Oh No, another Gurkha Sang Sastha? ke ko lagi
    pad ko lagi? if you guys can’t include in one of the current existed organisation, why bother advising us don’t bother waste your time. if you are a Gurkha you must belong to one of our organisation otherwise you can’t use the name GURKHA. may be you don’t know the meaning of it or simply you want to take advantage of the word.
    cheers.

  • 111. Acharya  |  August 21st, 2007 at 9:50 pm

    To Ratna Thapaji,

    In Nepalese politics, the more you fiddle with the crisis the more chance you have breeding another party/organisation. The more party/organisation you breed the more chance you have to pull once leg down.

    But in our (Gurkha) case it is money, nothing else. Yes, we have the cause to raise voice against ill treatment, I agree, but again having come all the way to this point, it seems like our leaders are not even fighting for a seat.

    By now we all know the core of the cause but what we are missing is a UK made jack and hammer.

    To be frank, we are depending on a KHATARA with tie and suite to reach our destination. And a bulluck from Nepal to pull it.

    Gurkha Legion

  • 112. Acharya  |  August 24th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

    Hi Gurkhas,

    “Time to Think”

    01. Strange! why Siwakoti Cintan is with Tul Bahahdur Pun VC day and night? Perhaps he is hired by British and Nepalese government to disable Gurkha movement?????????????
    02. There are 3000+ ILE applicants stranded in Nepal and about 20000+pensioners awaiting equal pension but no one seems interested these days?
    03. A huge amount of money is raised in Hong Kong to fight against decremination. Given empty hopes to old pensioners and taken their hard earned pension, for what???????????????

    “Bitter Facts”
    01. There is no ground to file a case against MOD, Brigade of Gurkhas and British government, it has become national issue now, because-
    02. GAESO had filed a ill prepared case in 2003 and lost it.
    03. UBGEAN had lost a debate in House of Parliament in 2005 due to lack of preparation.
    04. BGWS consist of mainly post 1997 and is losing interest for pre 1997.

    Please, please, please educate every one, join hand and make one more move for the betterment of all parties.

    Jai Gurkha Legion

  • 113. tej yaksho  |  August 31st, 2007 at 11:58 am

    GAESO had done very good,congratulation to all member of GAESO who are strugalling since long period for “EQUAL-HUMAN RIGHT,WEall nepalese are supporting you and your REVOLUTION.
    THANKS
    Regards,
    yaksho

  • 114. Jai  |  January 17th, 2008 at 11:58 pm

    Dear all,

    I am fed up with you those who make unproductive and negative comments, our such comments, make reactionaries nothing than happy.
    If GEASO took money from someones witrh somone’s concent so what? Somebody liked and gave money to them. If you guys can and think they did wrong take them to court. If you can not then shut your mouth.
    It doe’s nt mean GESO is right, they made mistake they have to admit and stop.
    We are misled and exploited by not only by British, but our own people back in home, those bunch liers, we elect them and send them in monkey palace (people call Singh Darbar though). CA election is comming so we have to support those leaders who have atleast concern about this matter.

    Slavery is gone from US, Apartheid is gone from South Africa, but this exploitation, discrimination will never end we remain divided like monkey. It is in our hand, to make thisexploitation end and free ourselves. If you lot brave than come on, unite and show your bravery, but just sit down and think how it works. You/we have nothing to lose, we will lose everything if we do not understand on time.

    I request, all gurkhas to unite and behave like grown up and live rest of life with dignity.

    (note this Jai is not belongs to anybody or any party)

    Jai Gurkha.

  • 115. laxmi jhapali  |  January 22nd, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    Pension hike is heard but not received yet the hiked pension. Why? When will it come to implementation from? Plz reply me.

    Also ILR process is still underway perhaps. When will the decision of hearing be there?

  • 116. Ratna Thapa  |  January 27th, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Hello, Acharya ji
    I do`t know if this is you real name, i do agree with you in some aspect of the this situatin.
    but i totally disagree with you on evaluation of certain organisation
    i dn`t know if you have study closy to BWGS they do have pre 97 members as well, back home and here in UK as well, their current programme and publicity is growing day by day, all those pre 97 start to understand what is the fact regarding our plight, to date whatever other organisation telling them is becoming clear that it is nothing but a whitelies, it is very interesting all is becoming clear.
    JAI GURKHAS
    R thapa

  • 117. beloudbeproud  |  March 17th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    By reading all those comments mentioned above..i am so confused..because my parent is also applying for ILR form..i have heard that court will give final hearing on 15 april…Is it true?………….

  • 118. kamalagrg  |  March 21st, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    Namaste pathak pratikriya dine daju bhaiharu lai , yadi tapai nepali ho bhane pahila afno chhatima hat rakher afailai sodhanuhos ke ma—right chhu???? ni balla aru ko comment garnu sikhos.yo comment box ma tapai haru ko asudha bhawana padye. ke tyahi ho gorkhali ko chahana? tapai haru pani afno swartha ko lagi matra garnu bhayko chha .ke?asfno bhawana pokher aru lai nicha dekhayar tapai maan banna saknu hunchha?comment garda bisudha hunu paryo kasai ko parsonal chhabi laihoina.chahe u junsukai sastha ko kin nahos.

  • 119. philosopher  |  June 4th, 2009 at 8:34 pm

    gurkha needed EXTREMELY URGENT PASSPORT FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, YOU CAN SEE OUT SIDE OF PASSPORT AND HAS BEEN WRITTEN YOURS TO ENJOY YOURS TO PROTECT, NO VISA REQUIRED continued You can find out 40 pages law written in the REAL, ORIGINAL PASSPORT YOU MUST BE AWARE OF IT DON’T TAKE FALSE PASSPORT

  • 120. jaspal  |  March 24th, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Raise voice not force donation.

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